This article was originally published on November 23, 2005. The original hyperlink got damaged during a recent platform upgrade, therefore I am republishing it.
It would not be an understatement to say that there is hardly a fragrance that does not contain at least one musk component. The power of musk to refine, balance, fix and accentuate compositions without adding a heavy note is exceptional, and no other ingredient can rivals musks in terms of their popularity and versatility. Musk forms the pedestal upon which the entire composition rests. It fuses sensuality and warmth even into the simplest of compositions, and there exist numerous fragrances based solely around musk.
The term musk/musky in perfumery refers not only to the specific ingredients, but also to the abstraction of the complex odours of natural musk, which range from balmy, sweet, and powdery to fig-like, animalic, leathery, spicy, and woody. As Philip Kraft notes in his great overview of musks, “the more one studies its character [that of natural musk tincture], the more contrasting, vibrant and oscillating it becomes: repulsive–attractive, chemical–warm, sweaty–balmy, acrid–waxy, earthy–powdery, fatty–chocolate-like, pungent–leathery, resinous–spicy, fig-like, dry, nutty and woody, to give just some impressions” (144). The abstraction of these complex impressions into “warm, sweet, powdery and sensual” is what can be understood whenever “musky” tonality is mentioned. …
The history of musk is old, mentioned in many ancient texts. Ancient Muslim mosques were said to have been built with musk mixed into the mortar. As the sun shone on the building, it would have been filled with the beautiful scent. Natural musk (often referred to as Tonkin musk due to the fact that the best quality musk was Tonquin musk from Tibet and China) is the dried secretion from a sac in the abdomen of the musk deer (Moschus moschiferus L.) that at one time inhabited an area as far north as Lake Baikal. The cost of musk has always been exorbitant due to the fact that it took the lives of a hundred and forty deer to produce a kilo of musk. In 1979, musk deer became protected by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), and the importance of natural musk declined. Moreover, even prior to the signing of CITES, natural musk was eclipsed by synthetic musk aroma-chemicals, which not only offered a more ethical solution, but also a more cost-efficient one.
However, musk deer is not the only natural source of musk compounds. Ambrette seed oil, galbanum oil and angelica root oils allow for the isolation of elements that have a musky character. Thus, Jean-Claude Ellena explores the effect in his Angéliques sous la pluie (2000) for Frédéric Malle Editions de Parfums.
The discovery of the first synthetic musks is a by product of research on explosives. In 1888, Albert Baur, in the process of searching for new explosives noticed that the product of the reaction of trinitrotoluene (TNT) and tert-butyl halides produced a pleasant odour. Musk Baur became the first synthetic musk, classified under the nitro musks category. In 1894 he produced Musk Ketone, which was said to resemble natural musk fairly closely and until quite recently was among the most popular perfume ingredients. The nitro musks (Musk Xylol, Musk Ketone, Musk Tibetene, Musk Ambrette, Moskene) possess a warm, powdery scent, with an ambery and animalic overlay. The sensual warmth of Musk Ketone as well as other nitro musks pervades the base of Chanel No. 5 (1921) and of many other fragrances from that period. Musk Ambrette’s heavy floral tone gave character to Nina Ricci L’Air du Temps (1948), and when it was withdrawn from the market in 1981, the reformulation of the fragrance ran into various problems, as the musk was not easy to replace.
Nitro musks fell out of favour in the 1980s not only because of the hazards associated with their production, but also due to their lack of stability. The new group of musks that arose were the polycyclic musks (Phantolide, Celestolide, Traesolide, Tonalide, Galaxolide), as well the macrocyclic musks (Habanolide, Thibetolide, Globalide, Velvione). In addition, various modern musks are becoming more and more important in perfumery such as Helvetolide, Nirvanolide, and Muscenone. This list is hardly exhaustive, and it merely points out an incredible diversity among the synthetic musks, attesting to the popularity of these aroma-chemicals. From the sweet powderiness of Galaxolide and metallic nuances of Habanolide to the pear undertones of Helvetolide, the synthetic musks range dramatically in terms of their odour profiles.
The fruity side of musks is explored by L’Artisan Parfumeur in the creation of Mûre et Musc (1978) and its sweeter, richer variant Mûre et Musc Extrême (1993). The addition of berry notes accentuates the fruity tonality of musk, leading to the harmonious composition. Woody and fruity accents of another musk ingredient, Moxalone, are juxtaposed with the sparkling grapefruit and red currant accord of Yves Saint Laurent Baby Doll (1999).
Radiant freshness accented by a metallic overtone made certain musks like Habanolide and Globalide particularly popular. These musks are sometimes referred to as white musks. The modern white musk accord was first created by Alberto Morillas’ Emporio Armani White for Her (2001), a combination of various white musks, exploring their elegant fresh facet in order to lend a gentle transparency to the composition. Emporio Armani White ornaments the glacier coolness of musks with the tart sweetness of mandarin, spiciness of ginger, and verdancy of black currant, fig leaves and mint. Moreover, the white musk theme appears in fragrances like Thierry Mugler Cologne (2002), J.Lo Glow (2002) and Serge Lutens Clair de Musc (2003). The hot-ironed fabric feel of Habanolide lends elegance to the gourmand sweetness of Christian Dior Hypnotic Poison (1998).
Functional products are among the biggest consumers of musks, due to the fact that musks deposit well on fabrics during washing, and indeed a few musk odorants entered fine perfumery only after being made popular by fabric softeners. Galaxolide is one such example. Interestingly enough, its association with freshly washed fabric was explored in Estée Lauder White Linen (1978), where it was used at the concentration of 20%. Its characteristic sweet and powdery warmth also pervades Lancôme Trésor and Caron Parfum Sacré.
In fine fragrances, compositions usually include a cocktail of different musks due to the fact that anosmia to musks is extremely widespread, even among the perfumers (indeed, rivaling even the very common anosmia to beta-ionones, which are responsible for the violet notes).
The search for new musk odorants is always continuing, and my overview should be seen as the tip of the iceberg. The new great musk quest can lead researchers to the most unlikely places and can turn them into alligator hunters! Thus, it was reported that a particular type of alligators emits a musky secretion, which was subsequently isolated. However, alligator musk is not to be the next perfume ingredient as the compound turned out to be sweet and rosy, its musky undertone a sole product of impurities.
Photo of musk deer from amur-heilong.net
73 Comments
kaie: Great article! I love to read about this topic and I like many perfumes with musk very much, especially the white kind. I also like the musky note in Kenzo Flower. November 23, 2005 at 5:20am
julien: Great to read.
There are truly two types of musk:the animalistic one,we can find for example in Musc Koublai khan,very strong and uneasy to wear sometimes and the “white”one,pure,like Body shop or Clair de Musc.I also love musk with amber and vanilla from MUSC RAVAGEUR, it’s like the smell of a perfect skin.
Have you tried Narciso rodriguez for her?
In france,women are so crazy about it and its musky scent. November 23, 2005 at 5:45am
Håkan Nellmar: Wonderful article! I learned a lot from it. Thank you. November 23, 2005 at 6:15am
parislondres: Fascinating article dear V! I do enjoy some perfumes with musk. In Udaipur last year, a Gujarati perfumer with a tiny kiosk called Gujarati Perfumes in one of main market areas, showed me some musk that was thick and black in colour and he mixed some of that musk with saffron oil in front of me. The result was quite something.
If I can find it when I see you I will make sure you smell it. Potent stuff!
Hugs! November 23, 2005 at 4:03am
Test Subject: I was also intriguied by the story of Albert Bauer and his experiments with TNT. I give him a lot of credit for exploring the use of his new compound in the fragrance industry. I suspect the average chemist would have simply noted that it smelled nice and left it at that. November 23, 2005 at 9:24am
Håkan Nellmar: Marcello, I’m sure the names are trademarks. Galaxolide, for instance, is IFF’s name for hexahydro-4,6,6,7,8,8-hexamethyl cyclopenta-#-2-benzopyran. November 23, 2005 at 9:32am
mreenymo: How on earth do you have time to research all of this and write these long, informative pieces?
I think you must be a genius! :):)
Hugs! November 23, 2005 at 11:37am
Laura: This is SO interesting, V! I’m so glad to know more about this fascinating note/ingredient. November 23, 2005 at 7:56am
Test Subject: Marcello, your comments were very interesting. I am no expert in fragrance patents or trademarks but I can share perspective from someone who has worked with technological intellectual property. There is certainly inconsistency in the way intellectual property is handled around the world. I’m sure you can patent a new synthetic molecule and it’s method of synthesis or method of extraction. Trademarking is always more murky. I suspect it is easy to trademark the name of a molecule but much harder to trademark the actual smell of the molecule. Part of this must relate to the legal headache that would result. In essence, we have no objective way to discuss smell in a legal setting. For instance, we can’t say that a smell is 5% different than another. Perhaps as the scientific community progresses in its understanding of olfaction we may one day have a quantitative measure. But for the time being, we rely on expert noses. Such evidence is intangible for a court of law. Anyway, I’m sharing the thoughts that pop into my head when I think about this issue. I hope there is some expert out there who can elaborate further. November 23, 2005 at 1:23pm
Marcello: Excellent job, V! I like the names of those poly- and macrocyclic musks. Do you know if they are trademarks? November 23, 2005 at 9:04am
Katie: Really a lot to chew on there, V. I do like my older scents that are clearly animal spiked, but I am quite happy and content with the fact that we have so very many animal-free options nowadays. I know some folks bemoan the perceived loss of the animal musk, yet I honestly think we make up for that scent-loss with an improved humanity for it.
I did not know that about explosives and synthetic musks. Wow. This gives a whole new layer of meaning to the phrase “bombshell perfume!” November 23, 2005 at 9:11am
Rafael: Once again, fascinating review dear V.
Some other great musk ingredients include ethylene brassilate (Musk T), Exaltolide and Cashmeran (diffusive, spicy, musky-like odor with strong floral reinforcement).
Surfing the net I found a very interesting article on musks (and phtalates) conducted by Greenpeace where the amount of different musk materials is stated for some very well known fragrances.
http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/phthalates-and-artificial-musk.pdf
Dear V, do you think that for one of your next fragrance ingredients reviews, you could write something about the «acquatic» notes like Florhydral, Floralozone, Maritima, Scentenal, Calone, etc. It seems everybody hates the latter one after such repeated and extensive use!
My best, Rafael. November 23, 2005 at 3:22pm
Tania: Nice work, you busy researcher, you! Musks are fascinating. I can’t figure out if their wide use in laundry detergents and the like is why I often think of musk scent as the smell of cleanness, or if they were selected for detergents because they smelled clean. Which came first?
By the way, I am so exhausted that I read “Nina Ricci L’Air du Temps” as “Ninja Ricci…” November 23, 2005 at 10:32am
helg: Hi there , dear V !
What I ‘d really like to know , being a musk lover par excellence , is which musks are used in each composition , because the whole subject of synthetic musks is very dangerous for health and the environment I read (nitromusks etc ). Some polycyclic ones are deemed safer , I think , but how can one be sure of which is used each time? They always use poetic terms that pertain to smell and not composition…….
BTW , Narciso is a fabulous musk fragrance : quite something. If you haven’t tried , I am sending some along pronto !! November 23, 2005 at 11:23am
helg: Forgot to say – what I mean is :”is there a safe perfumer’s resource on which musk is used in which composition? ”
The examples used here by you are excellent , but numerous of my favourite perfumes contain musks and I think it would be a wonderful resource if one classed them according to the musk ingredient used (just a thought) , provided one can have access to info of course. November 23, 2005 at 11:28am
Tania: By the way, I recall Chris Brosius mentioning (when we saw him in his shop) that they’ve recently found a way to extract musk safely from the musk deer without killing it, which could bring the use of natural musk back. Don’t know how I feel about it. I still have a knee-jerk “poor little cute Bambi” feeling about the little critters, and knowing the ill treatment civet cats go through, I’d be skeptical about claims that the procedure is humane. November 23, 2005 at 11:32am
Test Subject: With regards to musks and laundry detergent, I was interested by the comment about their hydrophobicity. I would have guessed that such character would tend to make them aggregate around any oils or grease rather than them having strong affinity for the fabric. But I guess I don’t know much about the character of the fabrics themselves. Are the musks used only as odorants or do they actually have any cleaning function? November 23, 2005 at 5:20pm
dbeech: Thanks for another fascinating research piece. I have always been intrigued by musk. After reading your article, I feel much more knowledgeable about this fragrance staple. November 23, 2005 at 5:46pm
Marcello: Thanks, Håkan! Reason I ask is because the synthetic musks reminded me of an e-mail I received (recently) from Dr. Ralf Sieckmann. Three years ago he was involved in a legal battle against the Deutsches Patent- und Markenamt (the German patent and trademark office) re: “non-traditional marks”. In this case (filed as RS C-273/00 on December 12, 2002) the European Court of Justice declared that:
“2. In respect of an olfactory sign, the requirements of graphic representability are not satisfied by a chemical formula, by a description in written words, by the deposit of an odour sample or by a combination of those elements”.
“NOT satisfied by a chemical formula”… that bit sounded interesting, to say the least. When I read V’s article, I wondered to what extent this is effective worldwide, and if manufacturers are always successful in registering their odorants.
Under the European ruling as stated above, the description “hexahydro-4,6,6,7,8,8-hexamethyl cyclopenta-#-2-benzopyran” is not sufficient to register Galaxolide as a trademark. To make things worse, some offices simply refuse to register smells as trademarks, like the Benelux Trademarks Office (BTO): http://www.bmb-bbm.org/gb/pages/faqantwoorden.html#4
All this is none of my competence, but I thought I’d share this with you. Since it’s a bit off-topic here, I’ll just add a link containing media reports on the Sieckmann case:
http://www.copat.de/markenformen/mn_eugh_kom.htm November 23, 2005 at 12:52pm
BoisdeJasmin: Dear N, thank you! Oh, I would love to smell that musk. Of course, you have also mentioned saffron, which I love. As far as I understand, Gujarat is one of the main jasmine growing areas in India. I would love to visit. So far, I have not made it past Delhi and Maharashtra. November 23, 2005 at 4:06pm
BoisdeJasmin: Kaie, I love the musky note in Kenzo Flower as well. It has a very subtle pear nuance, which I like, and it uses some of the newest musk ingredients. November 23, 2005 at 4:07pm
BoisdeJasmin: Julien, thank you. I think that you pointed the difference quite nicely. I like examples from both groups, although white musks took me longer to appreciate, and there are many compositions that overuse them. However, when they are done well (as in Emporio Armani White for Her), they shine.
I really grew to like Narciso Rodriguez for her, and you are inspiring me to revisit it. November 23, 2005 at 4:11pm
BoisdeJasmin: Håkan, I am glad! It is fun to research these topics. November 23, 2005 at 4:14pm
BoisdeJasmin: L, it is fascinating. I love to understand more on the science of fragrance, to read and to write about it. November 23, 2005 at 4:15pm
BoisdeJasmin: Marcello, thank you! Yes, all of them are trademarks, and you can find out more on specific ingredients if you go to my perfume information page (I have links to most databases that are maintained by the fragrance suppliers). November 23, 2005 at 4:17pm
BoisdeJasmin: Katie, I cannot agree more. I love the richness and complexity of musky bases of my fragrances from 20s-60s (natural musk was used till 1979 in fine perfumery), however I am all for ethical farming of ingredients. Moreover, there are many very good synthetic options.
Apparently, Musc Ravageur smells most like the natural musk tincture. Have you tried it?
Laughing out loud at your bombshell perfume reference! November 23, 2005 at 4:21pm
BoisdeJasmin: P, I was intriguied by the story as well (and for the same reason you were). Fascinating how some discoveries take place. November 23, 2005 at 4:35pm
BoisdeJasmin: Håkan, yes! For instance, Habanolide, Thibetolide, Velvione are the Givaudan trademarks. November 23, 2005 at 4:37pm
BoisdeJasmin: T, chuckling over Ninja Ricci! Yes, you have been working very hard.
I think that musks in particular are favoured for laundry detergents is because they tend to have high hydrophobicity, which makes them adhere to fabric well during the wash. Many modern musks are also very clean smelling, which is not something one would say of the natural tincture. November 23, 2005 at 4:45pm
BoisdeJasmin: E, NR for Her is a great musk. I have a few samples and a small bottle someone gave me a while ago. I really like it.
I doubt that you shall find that kind of information. However, do look through the link Rafael supplies below. It is quite information.
Nitro musks are no longer used, and there is no conclusive research on the topic of whether polycyclic musks have negative effects in the long term. Quoting from the article on musk by Philip Kraft, “As a consequence of their massive production
volumes, their excellent chemical stability, their non-biodegradability and their high
octanol/water partition coefficient, PCMs have bioaccumulated in fish and other marine
organisms, human fat and human milk [52]. Although no apparent toxicity has been
reported [10], possible long-term effects [53] are difficult to foresee, and more and
more PCM-free formulations appear on the market” (155).
At any rate, fragrance would be my last concern, because these musks are employed above all in the functional products. November 23, 2005 at 4:57pm
BoisdeJasmin: E, I would love that kind of information, however I doubt that one can find it accessible all in one place. I am keeping my own little database, but the information in it comes from all of the articles I read, etc.
To be honest, I am not particularly concerned about the allergens in fragrances, as only a small amount of perfume is used anyway. Moreover, if you read enough on the topic, just about everything causes cancer. I do not know, maybe I just have too lighthearted of an approach to these things. Afterall, I lived through a Chernobyl accident in Ukraine. November 23, 2005 at 5:03pm
BoisdeJasmin: T, I am also very skeptical about the humanity of that method. November 23, 2005 at 5:04pm
BoisdeJasmin: R, hardly! This is just too interesting for me not to research the topic. I like to understand how things work (and smell). 🙂 November 23, 2005 at 5:06pm
BoisdeJasmin: Marcello, from what I understand (admittedly, little) and remember from my law school classes on intellectual property rights protection and trademarks, there are vast difference between the way the law is interpreted by the national courts, especially if you are talking about the European Court rulings. The trademarking of smell is also an extremely complicated topic.
Well, to make things more interesting: the same type of musk can be trademarked by different fragrance supplier companies. So, 15-pentadecanolide is sold as
Cyclopentadecanolide® by Symrise, Exaltolide® by Firmenich, Pentalide® by Soda Aromatics, and Thibetolide® by Givaudan. November 23, 2005 at 5:14pm
BoisdeJasmin: P, thank you for such a great commentary on this topic. I think that you are right about the trademarking of smell. In these cases, it is not the smell that is trademarked though, as my aforementioned example of 15-pentadecanolide demonstrates. It is a very interesting topic, and I should probably read more on it. November 23, 2005 at 5:16pm
BoisdeJasmin: Dear Rafael, thank you for this fantastic link! I printed it out right away. I also like Cashmeran, and its ambery warmth seems quite special to me. Its floral side harmonized quite nicely with the jasmine in Thierry Mugler Alien.
I shall definitely have to write on aquatic florals and ozonic notes. I myself do not care for Calone, since it was so overused, however I still think that it is an interesting material. November 23, 2005 at 5:26pm
BoisdeJasmin: P, I think that they are used for their scent alone, rather than for any cleaning function. November 23, 2005 at 5:28pm
BoisdeJasmin: D, I am so glad to hear it! Musk is one of those notes that is present in every fragrance, and I am very intrigued by it too. November 23, 2005 at 6:34pm
helg: Dear V ,
of course : the Chernobyl accident far surpasses anything of the kind of concern I raised 😉
Thanks for your suggestions and the chance to find links here by knowledgable members who provide info. November 24, 2005 at 7:42am
BoisdeJasmin: Dear E,
I am glad that you found the links interesting and helpful. It is an important topic to research, and if it concerns you, you should do so. Happy to offer any help. November 24, 2005 at 5:45pm
lainey: i was wondering if anyone where the musk in men’s and women’s aqua di gio comes from; is it the musk deer? also, can someone explain the term “white musk” again. i’m not sure i understand the difference between “white musk” and other types of musks. thanks so much! January 1, 2006 at 6:00pm
BoisdeJasmin: Lainey, that musk is most definitely synthetic. Natural musk has hardly been used since 1979, and if so, only in very expensive fragrances.
There are numerous musk synthetics with varying odour profiles. White musk is just a description of certain musk synthetics which have a metallic, radiant freshness (white, clean) rather than balmy darkness. Hope that it helps to understand what white musk means. January 1, 2006 at 8:30pm
Louise: Fascinating, informative article! As a musk lover since the early 1970s, I remember the sweetness and richness of animal musks in
oils such as RH Musk Oil.
The closest to those not-so-good for the deer old days, is perhaps the low-brow Coty Wild Musk Oil and the QVC shopping channel’s Tova Signature.
I still miss the animal based musks, I’m sorry to admit though. March 5, 2006 at 2:52am
BoisdeJasmin: Louise, I am glad that you enjoyed it! I love the animalic sweetness too, to be honest. However, given the range of available synthetic musks, I am happy. Still, I would love to smell the real tincture at some point. March 7, 2006 at 11:18pm
bruno: test March 18, 2006 at 5:32pm
aldona: hi, does anyone know if the musk in Thierry Mugler’s Angel is animalic? thank you 🙂 December 11, 2006 at 7:35am
anita loria: Hi I work for Bloomingdales in new york, A woman past by me and she had a very nice musks fragrances on . I ONLY USE MUSKS, Iam 60 years young, she told me that she had musks body perfume, Please if you can email me some names of the musks that you have and how I can order them I would be very gratefull.
Thank you
Anita Loria
[email protected] June 23, 2007 at 10:36am
Jana Victoria: Strange as it may seem, there is a delightful “musk” that comes from the ear wax of wolves. I have noticed it for many years-powdery, damp beeswax with Damascan rose. I do wolfdog rescue, and the more wolf in the animal, the stronger and more compelling the scent. My own ancient white wolf, Islay, has charmed many with his comforting scent. This is noticeable, of course, only as he is fairly clean and not covered in “wolf perfume”, ie, dead things. I should add that this is different from the scent of fur, or of the more repulsive (to us) scent of wolves’ marking glands.
Domestic dogs do not seem to have this same quality. I’m not sure if coyotes do, but I’ll try to check next time one comes to rescue, if he or she cooperates! February 13, 2008 at 3:15am
Boisdejasmin: Jana Victoria, this is fascinating! Thank you for sharing. Wolves are such amazing animals. February 13, 2008 at 8:38am
lenore j: I had a lovely mutt named Duncan who had a musk that smelled powdery with a grape kool-aid scent. It was very soothing. Maybe he had a little wolf in him! October 17, 2011 at 9:30am
FragrantVagrant: Maybe someone was feeding him grape Jollyranchers or was slipping grape koolaid into his bathwater?
All dogs have wolf in them. November 8, 2014 at 11:46pm
Nikki: How wonderful, this is so interesting and full of facts I didn’t know before. I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge with us…and, of course, you suggested Parfum Sacre to me when we talked about Venice which I love so I am very grateful! October 17, 2011 at 9:44am
silverdust: What an interesting piece! I’m basking in my smugness of loving NR and musks exclusively and the usual nose-wrinkling reaction I get from perfumistas of extremely high-end perfumes who say they don’t “do” musks.
Ha ha ha, it’s in everything, even their favorites. October 17, 2011 at 10:07am
Emma: Modern synthetic musks are highly toxic for health, it’s everywhere online. What about vegetal musks, are they really non-synthetic plant-based musks and therefore safer? October 17, 2011 at 10:37am
Kristen: How interesting! I have so much to learn and really enjoy these posts. I would love to understand the differences between the musks used in various perfumes, because that might explain my very different reactions to them…
For example, I love Muscs Koublai Khan and Kiehl’s musks, but the musk smell of NR for Her, Guerlain’s Idylle, and Body Time’s Egyptian Musk oil absolutely turns my stomach. I can’t detect musk at all in Musc Ravageur (or maybe it’s so “clean” that I didn’t realize it was musk). And I didn’t even realize that Parfum Sacre and Hypnotic Poison featured musk in any strong way.
Then there’s a musk or “skin scent” in many Bvlgari perfumes (thinking of Pour Homme especially) that I dislike. Something similar also seems to be present in CdG’s Kyoto, which I loved until it started to dry down and then I had to scrub furiously.
Would love to read more if anyone has suggestions! October 17, 2011 at 2:13pm
Yelena: Thank you for another thought-proviking article. Most synthetic musks that I have complete anosmia to- isn’t that awful? So for example, Musc Ravageur smells like tame spices to me, I cannot smell Narciso Rodriguez at all- complete blank. I can detect real animal musk, though in vintage my Sin, Shocking, Dior Dior, etc, etc. Not that I think the animal musk should be brought back- I am far, far, far too staunch a supporter of animal rights in every capacity. Your article also got me to thinking about the perfumes popular in France before the revolution. Apparantly many were mostly musk based and must have been so heady mixed with the other scents of human existence that were so concentrated in close quarters back in those days… October 17, 2011 at 3:25pm
Emma: Victoria, thanks for the information on vegetal musk, I thought this was just a marketing thing but obviously it is real and natural although it can also be synthetic made as well.
I understand you beg to differ but according to many studies on synthetic musks, these are highly toxic, specially when used on a daily basis and in combination with other petrochemical products found in cosmetics, shampoos etc.
I don’t think using a high quality perfume composed with synthetic musks every now and then will poison anyone but to be on the safe and pro-environmental side of things, also as a perfumista who wears a lot of perfume at this point I’m only using natural household products, Seventh Generation is great. I’m also wearing all natural/organic cosmetics such as Absolution and Intelligent Nutrients (truly the the best), Dr. Hauschka and Burt’s Bees. October 17, 2011 at 3:31pm
Emma: Any perfume recommandation based on angelica root?
Seventh Generation is great and affordable. I love the Lavender Floral & Mint natural dish liquid and the Lemongrass & Thyme disinfecting bathroom cleaner 😉 October 17, 2011 at 4:57pm
Victoria: A friend who own a chihuahua mentioned that he has a very nice musky scent, especially after he sleeps in the sun.
On a slightly different topic, did you see the documentary called Dogs Decoded? It discusses how all of the dogs descended from wolves, in contrast to what was previously thought. I love documentaries in general, but that one is so well-done, I watched it a couple of times already. October 17, 2011 at 12:58pm
Joy: I loved this production and have watched it several times! May 6, 2015 at 4:25pm
Victoria: Nikki, thank you! I am so glad that you found Parfum Sacre and fell in love with it. I think that it is a gem. October 17, 2011 at 12:59pm
Victoria: There are so few fragrances that do not contain musk! Even when we do not smell it distinctly, some musk may in the formula to act as a fixative. It is such a crucial note.
And yes, I love NR (and its somewhat more wearable twin, SJP Lovely.) October 17, 2011 at 1:01pm
Victoria: Some musks are potential allergens (nitro-musks,) others have a tendency to remain in tissues (some types of polycyclic musks,) but they are no longer used. Most synthetic musks are in fact perfectly safe, although as with any newly developed products, the time will tell.
At any rate, the amount of these materials that you absorb through your skin in fragrance is minimal. Far more worrisome would be the usage of certain materials in functional products, where they are truly employed in quantities that can make a difference (and most for the environment.) For instance, the evidence that some polycyclic musks do not easily break down was discovered through studying the tissues of fish and water samples. This research led to a very thorough reconsideration of the usage of certain materials in perfumery and functional products.
As for vegetal musks, angelica root oil contains 15-Pentadecanolide, which is a very nice, soft musk. I once compared about a dozen of different musks in a blind test, and it came out as one of the best ones in terms of its scent, tenacity and diffusion. Just to clarify, 15-pentadecanolide may be completely synthetic too, but nature-identical (ie, its structure is identical to what occurs naturally in the plant oil.) October 17, 2011 at 1:11pm
Austenfan: Dogs smell wonderful when they have been asleep. It’s strongest on their feet. Dogs can only lower their temperature through their tongue and their feet. So I am guessing it’s a kind of sweat.
The fact that dogs ( all dogs, and not just dogs that still look like wolves) descend from a wolf was published in Science years ago. I read that article but have never seen the documentary you mention. I will have to look for it. October 17, 2011 at 5:18pm
Dain: Such a perfect way to put it: “the salt and butter of perfumery”. October 17, 2011 at 1:53pm
Victoria: Thank you, Dain! Sometimes, it can enrich just like butter, but in many cases, musks also reveals a whole new dimension in fragrances, just like salt accomplishes this in food! 🙂 October 17, 2011 at 1:55pm
Victoria: Different people perceive musks differently, and even some perfumers cannot smell some types of musks! So, it is normal to detect musks in some fragrances and not in others. As to what musks are used in which fragrances, usually the perfumers blend several different types, so at least one will be perceived. Luca Turins’s Secret of Scent has a fascinating chapter on musks, by the way. October 17, 2011 at 3:34pm
Victoria: Musc Ravageur is more amber than musk to me, to be honest, and I know a few other people who also do not smell much more than spices in it.
In Mughal era India, musk sometimes was used in the building materials for palaces, and they smells for decades of musk. Imagine that! October 17, 2011 at 3:53pm
Victoria: I also like Seventh Generation, which I’ve tried after one of your recommendations a few months ago.
Angelica roots, even in their natural, dried state, have a nice musky scent. The seeds are delicious, by the way. They are used as a spice in Iranian/Persian cooking, and the flavor is very good, green, anise-like, celery-like, but honeyed and warm-spicy at the same time. October 17, 2011 at 3:56pm
Victoria: I have read that article also, very interesting. If I am not mistaken, the documentary talks about the original research used in that Science article. Well, it is worth watching. October 17, 2011 at 10:23pm
Victoria: I love that dish washing liquid! It has such a great scent.
Have you tried Malle’s Angéliques sous la Pluie? One of the best musky, rooty notes. Also, Ellena’s Eau de Gentiane Blanche for Hermes is great too. It also relies on that green musky notes to build its core. October 17, 2011 at 10:25pm
Robert: I have been toying with the idea of reanimating a she-ghost of the past whom I always associate with musk oil. Can gentlemen get away with musk, too? In particular, I’ve eyed a vintage Joven Musk Aftershave.
I choose vintage scents to time-travel back to the people and places of yore; only smell can unlock some of the jammed doors of my memory. April 5, 2013 at 10:32pm
Nick: Dear Victoria,
Do you happen to know whether Musk Ketone is completely phased out or is it still allowed in a very small concentration?
I just helped a friend get a body butter from Jericho and the back lists ‘Musk Keton’ as the last ingredient. It did smell musky when they opened the jar to let me smell. April 19, 2016 at 9:48am